Hull side effective: 95 mm. Czechoslovakia Tanks. A panther is supposed to defeat 6.7 to 7.0, here is an other matter. A veteran T-34-85 costs almost as much as an inexperienced Panther, meaning the Soviet player will have more points to spend on the rest of his force. V době svého vzniku v roce 1940 byl podle amerického autora Stevena Zalogy nejlepším středním tankem na světě. And it needs to be within 100M to penetrate the turret face of the Panther. German use of T-34s. Pantera jest w związku z tym szybsza ( np. “This work provides a welcome contrast to the usual praise surrounding the Panther, and it is one of the best Osprey Duel series titles to date.” ―Mark E. Stille, World War II Quarterly (Volume 4, Number 4, 2007) “Robert Forczyk's Panther vs. T-34: Ukraine 1943 is a pick for any military library focusing on equipment and action. Comparing: T-34-85 vs. Pz.Kpfw. All other things being equal, this would be more-or-less fair. IS ma za to co prawda nieco mniejszy nacisk jednostkowy na grunt ale to nie jest duża różnica (0,82 kg/cm2 vs.0,88 w Panterze) Reverse speed: Panther D - 4 km/h vs T-34-85 - 8 km/h. 07-02-2005 #2. Also vents, as I don't want to waste gold unequipping them. A T-34-85 cannot penetrate the front hull of a Panther at any range without resorting to APCR. Both Rudy and T-34-85M have camo equipped, but no crew. Wszystkie modele T-34-85 mają podobny wygląd zewnętrzny. 75 i 88 mm. I think that the T-34/85 is a great tank but the Panther is good to. Numbers after / are after firing. Także popularny na froncie czołg Panzerkampfwagen IV, otrzymał nową długolufową armatę kal. On the other hand the Panther could penetrate the T-34-85's turret front above 1200ms. Przedwojenne plany udoskonalenia czołgu T-34 zostały wznowione w 1944, a nowe modele ujednolicano z czołgiem T-44. Vmax 55 km/h po drodze vs. 37 w IS). On the flip side, the Panther can penetrate the T34 from almost any angle at almost any range with standard ammunition. J. Artykuł został opublikowany na starszej wersji strony. The Germans permanently lost 5 Tiger IIs, 7 Tiger Is and 5 Panthers for the loss of 4 T-34 85 tanks burnt out. Pancerne: T-34-85 vs. M26 29 stycznia 2016 Pancerne Pojedynki Uwaga! 75 mm. Description. It was introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41.Though similar to the T-34-85 (D-5T), it has an improved gun and a full crew for combat efficiency.. It's A fairly even match. The T-34-85's only chance frontaly, fireing BR-365 AP-T, was scoreing a hit on the Panthers small flat surfaces of the turret face. T-34-85 Rudy Tank vrs Tank tells you nothing about how experienced the crew is. However, the 85mm gun of the T-34 still has trouble against the Panther front because of the sloped armour but can penetrate the sides and rear from all practical combat ranges. World of tanks - comparing tanks side by side: T-34-85 vs. Centurion Mk. DOGolden. I don't have the T-34-85 in my garage right now, so I can only talk about the 85M and the Rudy. Edited May 19, 2014 by Baldeagle91. The project was canceled due to phasing out the Pz IV production. 13.55/3.39% concealment while moving. The most obvious external difference was the gun mantle, but the Model 1944 also had the commander’s cupola moved back to give more room to the gunner and to allow the radio to be moved from its previous position near the hull machine-gunner up into the turret in front of the commander so … It can reach high speeds both on and off road thanks to its wide tracks. A T-34-85 is better suited to staying mobile and flanking, as it's superior at close combat and a significantly smaller target. Knowing this, I would say that the Panther completely outclasses the T-34/85 in an open, clear slugging fight. I'm under the impression the top plate is the equivalent of 104mm and the lower one is 74mm. Panther byl jednoznačně jeden z nejlepších tanků WWII, z pohledu posádky byl v přímém boji rozhodně lepší než T-34/85 (čelně mohla být prostřelena věž na cca 500m při použití podkaliberní munice, korba 0m), ale z pohledu národohospodáře vítězí T-34/85, protože byl daleko levnější a snadněji vyrobitelný. I simply feel on is overated or the other underated. Czołg T-34-85 w Twierdzy Kłodzko ... Były to głównie wozy typu Panther i Tiger z nowymi armatami kal. Although T-34/85 Vs Tiger I or II is probably more correct when comparing the propaganda attention of … The Panther and the T-34-85 represented fundamentally different approaches to wartime production Comparing: Panther vs. T-34-1 This famous tank was produced from January 1943 through April 1945, with a total of 5,796 vehicles built plus eight vehicles built on the F … A T35-85 could encounter 6 up to 6.3. i was thinking the same thing. ingame panther vs t34-85 has the following pros: better armor, better penetration, better treverse speed, faster forward gear, faster reverse gear, faster startup cons:slower turret spin yeah thats it! T-34/85 vs Panther Well i dont know too much about the Panther but i know T-34s. The Panther and the T-34-85 represented fundamentally different approaches to wartime production. There was no starker contrast than between the nimble and low Hetzer and the Russian model, towering relatively high above the ground. Najogólniej T-34/85 to poprawiony T-34/76, w którym zlikwidowano wady, ale oczywiście w ramach możliwości wyznaczanych przez samą konstrukcję, jako że ta zasadniczo się nie zmieniła (oprócz nowej wieży). Moreover he gives an insight into the lives of the tank crews themselves, who were caught up in the largest land conflict of World War II, in … As slow as that may be, it's still double the speed that the Panther manages. A veteran T-34-85 costs almost as much as an inexperienced Panther, meaning the Soviet player will have more points to spend on the rest of his force. Wow is this wrong. [unreliable source?] The T-34-85 is an improvement over its predecessor, the T-34-85 (D-5T) with a better armament, ammo, … I'll put my money on the Panther, especially at longer ranges. Panzerkampfwagen V Panther (Sd.Kfz.171), w Polsce znany również jako „Pantera” – niemiecki czołg średni z okresu II wojny światowej.. Panther nie był jedynym podstawowym pojazdem niemieckich sił pancernych późnego okresu wojny. T-34/85 vs. Panther will probably be a lot like Sherm 76 vs. Panther. only difference might be the 85 has a better he round than the sherman 76. as a soviet player though, i look forward to having some is-2s going up against tigers and panthers. A Panther Ausf. Thus lone panthers vs two T-34-85's, but would require historical ammo limitations and more accurate maps. Poprawie uległa widoczność z czołgu oraz łączność – prowadzono seryjnie radiostacje. Also remember the shot trap when you hit the lower part of the gun mantlet. 17.08/4.27% concealment while stationary. The T-34-85 Gai has excellent mobility for a medium tank, as expected of a T-34. Panther may take the lead, though the Panther D rarely ever reaches this speed, even while going downhill. ... kiedy to Pershing z 3 Dywizji Pancernej wygrał pojedynek z czołgiem Panther utrzymującym pozycję u stóp katedry w Kolonii. If you want a Panther to have a 50:50 chance against 3 T-34s, the cost-ratio should be closer to 1:3. I vs. Panther II I play both, and really I feel more confortable/secure with T34-85 than panther. The T-34-85 Model 1943 and T-34-85 Model 1944 differed in a number of respects. T-34/85 is more of a match against the Panther. T-34 byl sovětský střední tank vyvinutý na přelomu 30. a 40. let 20. století, který měl zásadní a trvalý dopad na konstrukci tanků. At least in arcade I have doubt. T-34/100 - A proposed modification of the T-34-85 with bigger mantlet and a 100mm gun. Never built. T-34-85CZ - This was the Czechoslovak production version of the T-34-85. D only has one (effective) ammunition type and will penetrate better. it has no weak sides beside turret spin! Disponoval bezprecedentní kombinací palebné síly, mobility, ochrany a robustnosti. The Panther was created following most of the design techniques used by the Russians. Is very fast and agile and oneshots most tigers with 1 hit! Captured T-34 Model 1943 tanks pressed into service with the Wehrmacht, January 1944. What do you think? A T-34-85 has more versatile ammunition and will deal more damage. Same armor, same engine, same suspension, same transmission. - większa ruchliwość: przy zbliżonej masie około 45 t Pantera ma silnik o mocy 700 KM, IS ma 520 KM. Armor: T-34–85 Glacis effective thickness: ~122 mm. With the appeartence of BR-365P HVAP the T-34-85 had a chance at ranges below 300ms to penetrate the Panthers turret front. While comparing the efficiency and power of each canon is certainly a different story, but the T-34/85 is the most suitable nemesis for the Panther. Right now the cost-ratio of a T-34/85 to a Panther is about 3:4. The other side of these tanks BR is what they will have to fight. The T-34-85 is a rank IV Soviet medium tank with a battle rating of 5.7 (AB/RB/SB). Do T-34-85 także po wojnie wprowadzano liczne techniczne ulepszenia, przede wszystkim w ramach radzieckich programów modernizacyjnych w 1960 i 1969 roku. Both tanks have a battlerating 5.0 The tiger can use the PzGr 39, max pen: 130mm at 10meters The T-34 85 can use the Br-365P, max pen: 185mm at 10meters AND can use artillery Support! T-34-85 were converted into a self-propelled howitzer armed with a 130mm towed field gun M1954(M46) in a cut-away turret. Robert A Forczyk provides a riveting and intense description of the design and development of these two deadly opponents, the Panther and the T-34, analyzing their strengths and weaknesses and describing their tactics, weaponry and training. Top speed: Panther D - 61 km/h vs T-34-85 - 55 km/h. T-34-85M. My source on this is Zaloga. A Panther Ausf. At the same time, Chinese engineers proposed an alternative project: the T-34-1. In 1954 the Chinese government considered the possibility of launching production of the T-34-85 in China. T-34-85CZ. Jak wszystkie "duele" (Panther vs T-34, Panther vs M4 Sherman czy ostatnio opisywany przeze mnie Pz II vs 7TP) książka składa się z chronologii równolegle pokazującej rozwój obydwu maszyn, sytuacji strategicznej, porównania potencjału obydwu stron walczących i paru innych elementów (patrz zdjęcie nr 2). Well, the two tanks were similar enough that focusing in on technical specifications is kind of missing the forest for the trees. Shortly nothing really problematic with rares exceptions. The T-34-85 took part in all subsequent engagements with the rarefying Panzer divisions, encountering a mix of Panzer IVs Ausf.G, H or J, Panthers, Tigers and many tank-hunters. The Panther was an all-new design that incorporated many technologies that had never been seen before in German tanks. The reverse speed is not exactly great, but it is significantly better than those of comparable Shermans, Panthers, and early T-34s (76 mm, 57 mm variants). The only change on the T-34/85 was a new turret and a gun comparable in penetration capabilities to the 7.5cm KwK40 and 76mm M1-M1A1C. Among them there was a project of mounting a Panther's Schmalturm (tight turret) on the Pz IV Ausf.